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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:30 am 

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hello
my soap has been sweating and has little pools of liquid during the early saponification process - about 2 hours after i made it. I used coconut milk in it, and made the same recipe yesterday with no sweating. Both times I soaped at about 88 F which is room temp where I am. I didnt gel it today but I did yesterday.
This has happened to me a couple of times before when i made honey oatmeal soap ( without any milk). both the times i made the honey oatmeal soap in the past I used different recipes but ended up with floods of liquid that I had to keep pouring off_ atleast 2-3 ounces by the end.
My questions are- why does this happen?
does it ruin soap? My earlier Honey soaps are very crumbly and ugly- not smooth and soft or silky.
how can i save my soap when this happens?
What is this process called and can i read more about it somewhere?
thanks in advance for all help
Mish


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:51 am 

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Can you post your recipes?

How much liquid are you pouring off? Is it lye water, oil or fragrance?

I am tentatively thinking that, since you are soaping at a low temperature, you are experiencing false trace. False trace happens when your oils cool enough that the solid oils (lard, tallow, coconut, etc) start to re-solidify, and make the soap batter thick. Even though the batter is thick, the soap has not been mixed well enough, and it seperates.

Tongue test your soap - does it zap?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:58 am 

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Thanks for replying Dixiedragon
Can I tongue test it before 24 hours?
My recipe is in oz, coconut oil 12, canola oil 10, sweet almond 6, Shea butter 6, castor oil 2, lye 4.9, water 5, coconut milk 5.
I soaped this at 88 F today and exactly the same yesterday. The only diff today was that I used green clay.

Also at 88F everything is liquid. And the soap seemed to have light to medium trace.

Thanks so much
Mish


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:01 pm 

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Oh and the liquid is like a very light oil- not sure if it is glycerine? I don't know what glycerine looks or feels like.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:57 pm 
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Sounds like a false trace. You have shea butter in your recipe, which needs a higher then 88 degrees to melt.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:20 pm 

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You can tongue test before 24 hours, yes. But at that stage, especially if you didn't gel, a "zap" is not unexpected.

LOL, I keep reading this title as "swearing during saponification".

Try soaping at around 100 degrees and see if that helps.


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