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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:07 pm 

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I was at a high end store and was looking at their soaps. They had soaps with rose buds and lavender and they were prefect. Every time I tried to use those herbs, they turn brown. Is there a way to make them not turn brown?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:11 pm 
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Were their soaps M&P or CP?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:16 pm 

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Coolah wrote:
Were their soaps M&P or CP?


I'm really not sure what they were. I use M&P. Do they only turn brown in M&P?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:24 pm 
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I know lavender will always turn brown. Most times I see rose buds used as decoration on the tops.

Did you happen to take a photo? Or have a link to their website so we can have a better look?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:03 pm 

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I don't have a picture or link. I don't remember the brand name. I just remember the lavender and rose buds were on top and not submerged.

I've made a loaf once and sprinkled rose petals on top and they turned brown within weeks :(


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:10 pm 
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I've seen many CP soaps with botanicals on top that didn't discolor, usually rosebuds that aren't submerged much in the soap. I read a really interesting blog post (it was on a French blog I don't remember) about how really high water discounts can prolong discoloration too, but that isn't MP. Sorry, I've never tried any herbs or botanicals in MP to offer advice.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:20 pm 
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I read about soaking them in glycerin before using them in MP. It is supposed to maintain their colour. But I have never tried it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:27 pm 
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I'd say likely they were CP soaps and with the rosebuds on top, they have stayed free form the soap enough to remain their colour.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:42 pm 
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I don't know of any soap MP or CP with botanicals on top that didn't either discolor or turn brown over time, except for calendula. It could be the soaps you saw were fresh.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:21 pm 

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Is calendula the only herb that won't discolor?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:01 pm 
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NH070181 wrote:
Is calendula the only herb that won't discolor?

Pretty much.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:43 pm 
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I agree with Irena, Calendula is (according to my experience) the only one , which does not get brown.
If the herbs are on top of the soap, then they have little contact with the lye and alkaline soap. Another possibility is to cover the herbs with silikone wax or even with paraffin wax. They build a mantle around the herb and isolate the inner from the lye.
It is not really natural but what is really natural in the commercial dimensions?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:59 pm 
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inspiration wrote:
I agree with Irena, Calendula is (according to my experience) the only one , which does not get brown.
If the herbs are on top of the soap, then they have little contact with the lye and alkaline soap. Another possibility is to cover the herbs with silikone wax or even with paraffin wax. They build a mantle around the herb and isolate the inner from the lye.
It is not really natural but what is really natural in the commercial dimensions?

Except I would not want silicone wax or paraffin wax going down the drain.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:04 pm 

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How do you cover the herbs in wax? Can you tell me where to get the supplies and what to get? And how to do it?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:08 pm 
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NH070181 wrote:
How do you cover the herbs in wax? Can you tell me where to get the supplies and what to get? And how to do it?

A good start would be via google. If it's doable, there will be info out in there...

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