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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:30 pm 
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I've been trying to figure how to use titanium diaxode in a clear base. I've stirred it in so much I made bubbles, I added to hot water before hand, I tried mixing it in oil. Each time I try to use it, my soap comes out with little white speckles that, if I remelt and pour, I can get rid of most of it.

So, all you soap gurus, tell me!!!!! :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:56 am 

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Is it water dispersible or oil dispersible? There are different kinds and if it doesn't say, then it's probably for oil.

For oil, I would use a small jar of glycerine and put the Titanium Dioxide in with it and shake it up.
I use this for Cold Process though and not M&P. I think most people use "White Base" M&P to avoid getting lumps in the first place because you can't stir M&P as much.
I've also seen liquid "white" gel tone for M&P uses.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:42 pm 
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It's water dispersable. My SO thinks it can also be used for MP. I had my doubts, but let him order anyway, along with 25 lbs of clear base, because of a time crunch for the craft fair on 7/4. I wanted to wait until BB had their shea back in stock, but he was getting antsy. I'm starting to get really upset with the whole oxiode thing, so I've been doing ALOT of clear, colored with regular colorants. I am really hoping we can sell some of this stuff....

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If it's water soluble, you might have better luck mixing it with some glycerin instead of water. If you add water to the base it might not harden.

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If it's oil soluble, I mix a 1/4 teaspoon titanium dioxide with 1 teaspoon of oil (any liquid one with do) and then mix very, very vigorously for about 30 seconds. Then, I wait for about 15-20 seconds and draw the white oil from the top of the bowl - and NOT the bottom. The bottom is where all the clumps just sunk into so that's the part to stay away from.

Or you could buy titanium dioxide that's already mixed into glycerin and save yourself some time (and teachsoap forum therapy). :)

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:45 am 
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I assure you water dispersible TD will NOT mix with glycerine. In all activities related to soaping that I have experienced water is the formal invitation to a bio-hazard in M&P soaping.

Liquid glycerine and oils are interchangeable in M&P Soaping. If you make M&P soaps I see no reason whatsoever to own water dispersible TD -- you need oil dispersible.

I make soaps and 5 types of soap paints and I assure you from experience water dispersible TD is useless for M&P soaping. I should know I have two lbs of it. ;p Yes there was a time when I didn't know the difference between water dispersible and oil dispersible TD. I learned the hard way. :)

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OOoooooh! Bummer!


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Mine is water soluble and I disperse mine in glycerin with no problems....

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:02 pm 
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soapbuddy wrote:
Mine is water soluble and I disperse mine in glycerin with no problems....


Wow. It takes but one counterexample to prove someone wrong and you just proved me wrong. Perhaps there are different preparations of the water dispersible stuff? All I know is that I added about a tablespoon to 1 oz or so of glycerine and no matter what I tried the TD sat atop the glycerine. I shook, stirred and shook some more only to squeeze the bottle and have bone dry TD *poof* into the air.

Nevertheless I take back my previous post!

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Hi again, Peggi! I had a similar problem to yours today - I ran out of opaque like-CP soap and needed something to lighten up my fleshtone-colored soap. I didn't know that I needed a just tiny, tiny pinch of brown oxide to color my soap? :oops: I actually ended up with milk chocolate-colored soap :roll: and no matter how much clear soap I added I couldn't get it light enough - I still ended up with an extra 6 bars cocoa-colored soap which I'll probably remelt later and add chocolate espresso FO to. Anyway, I had some water-dispersible titanium oxide on hand from BB's pigment sampler pack, mixed that with some glycerin just like Soapbuddy suggested and also got those little clumps like you did. I got tired shaking the plastic container I put the titanium oxide in so I poured everything in my blender and spritzed the titanium with some alcohol before giving it a whir. It worked! I had to stop from time to time to spritz it with alcohol to break up the clumps and wait a while after for the bubbles to subside but I got rid of those TD clumps. :) Maybe this will work for you too, especially since you have to make a bigger batch? Just add a little TD at a time to the glycerin in the blender and spritz lightly with alcohol so you don't get a TD cloud. (Yeah, ask me how I know this.) :lol: Hope this solves your problem too. LOL!

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