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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:26 am 
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Well I've done it some how. A lovely batch of soap that is somehow LYE heavy. CPOP 1 hour 160 degree oven. Oils temp 109, Lye temp 101.

I've gone over and over my process take good notes and measure twice. I absolutely am sure that my measurements as provided by soap calc were accurate.

So now I need to figure out what went wrong before I can think about re-batching if it is possible.

One thing I wonder about is my Palm Oil. 7 pound tub. When scraping and measuring out the palm oil there seemed to be some difference in the consistency some softer areas some harder areas. This is a new tub.

Any ideas?

Is this worth re batching and any idea how to fix it?

Thanks everyone for listening! Any ideas are so welcomed!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:47 am 

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Mella,
Sorry to hear about your lye heavy soap. I don't have an answer for the rebatch part, but with Palm oil, you do have to melt the whole bag/bucket down and stir it up before use. I believe it's the palm steric acid that sinks to the bottom, so you have to make sure it's all mixed up well first.

What I do, I get the 7 lbs. bag from BB, I melt the whole thing, stir well, and divide it up into 8 oz. containers. I usually only use 8 oz. at a time, so that why I do it that way. Then I know the whole thing has been incorporated fully.

I'm sure someone else will have advice on the rebatch part.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:28 am 
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Unless you know where you went wrong, it will be hard to fix. You could try to rebatch and add more oil. If it was just a small batch, I would chuck it and chalk it up to experience. Here's a thought; is your scale accurate? If you are using it with batteries, maybe you need to replace them?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:38 am 
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Brandy thank you for your guidance regarding the palm oil. I've never come across this before always used it just as it was. Live and learn 100 batches later!

Yes soapbuddy, the scale is accurate I do the check before my measurements and after.

It is a problem with the palm oil it must be. Not quite sure how to fix it.

Yes it is a large batch wouldn't you know! LOL

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Mella, how do you know it is lye heavy? Did it fail the zap test? If so did you check it again after 3 days of letting it sit?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:49 pm 
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How much did you superfat? I would go back to your lye calc and take a look. If you (for example) superfatted at 5%, take that amount of oil/butter and rebatch with this addition.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:32 pm 
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Well I did a 7% superfat with avo oil. So I'll think about this tonight! Thank you for the suggestion.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:47 pm 
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mella wrote:
Well I did a 7% superfat with avo oil. So I'll think about this tonight! Thank you for the suggestion.

You're welcome. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:01 pm 
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Susie this was a CPOP batch so it should come out of a hour cook neutral and fully gelled. I tested the following day upon un molding with Phenolphtalein. The top of the loaf tested neutral but the bottom didn't look right and felt oily and was pitted. Just one drop of phenol on the soap turned the drop instant hot pink. Lye heavy :(

Hey I think it was my turn for the bad elfs to visit.

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