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 Post subject: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:38 pm 

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I have always read about insulating your soaps. Since I have been reading all the posts one this site I have learned that many of you freeze/refrig your batches. Can you explain the difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:25 am 

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I freeze because I use milk and it has a better look and truer smell from the fo if it doesn't overheat or gel. It also comes out of the mold easier! I think years ago, it was thought that your soap had to gel to get total saponification. Now we know that a good cure of at least 4weeks produces a hard mild bar that doesn't discolor as much as it does during the gel. Since the gel phase also produces alot of heat, sometimes that will affect the outcome of some fragrance oils--- they may morph.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:12 am 

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Thank you, I also use milk and have learned that if I over insulate there is problems. I tried the freezer last night for my first two batches this way. Everything looks good so far. I did get that odd lye spot on the top??? The rest of the bar looks fine but one spot failed the zap test. I think I should be ok it I just scrap it off.


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:47 am 
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I use the fridge or the freezer to prevent gel. My soaps come out lighter, scents tend to morph less and I like the way the soap feels.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:41 pm 

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jmbaxter05 wrote:
I did get that odd lye spot on the top??? The rest of the bar looks fine but one spot failed the zap test. I think I should be ok it I just scrap it off.



It's hard to know exactly what your "odd lye spot" is----- for right now, give it a few weeks to cure, the ph gradually changes over the weeks---- that's why older bars are milder. If you don't have any other spots in your cut bars, you will probably be ok. Did you superfat? Maybe someone else will be able to figure out what your spot is........

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:50 pm 
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I would check for zap in some of the other bars. If they zap as well, I would suggest that you rebatch, if the recipe is ok otherwise.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:31 pm 

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Nothing else zapped, just the spot I suspected. 5% superfat.

Thank you for your help


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:31 am 
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I just put my cp soap in the freezer, after 24hrs of being wrapped, the soap has quite a gel state on it and I have posted pics in the cp forum, when is a good time to do this and how long should it stay there?Image


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:11 am 
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theginger8 wrote:
I just put my cp soap in the freezer, after 24hrs of being wrapped, the soap has quite a gel state on it and I have posted pics in the cp forum, when is a good time to do this and how long should it stay there?

Did you soap cool? Did everything incorporate thoroughly?
I've left my ungelled soaps in the freezer overnight with no ill effects.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:15 pm 
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soapbuddy wrote:
theginger8 wrote:
I just put my cp soap in the freezer, after 24hrs of being wrapped, the soap has quite a gel state on it and I have posted pics in the cp forum, when is a good time to do this and how long should it stay there?

Did you soap cool? Did everything incorporate thoroughly?
I've left my ungelled soaps in the freezer overnight with no ill effects.


Thanks, but what do I do with it after I take it out, and when do I take it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:22 pm 
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Normally, you can take the soap out after it's been in the freezer, let it come to room temp, then cut it.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:28 pm 
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soapbuddy wrote:
Normally, you can take the soap out after it's been in the freezer, let it come to room temp, then cut it.


Soap buddy, did you mean to give the amount of time it should be in the freezer?

I know I seem very anxious, but I seem to be getting invited to a number of showings, and I really feel as though I would be cheating everyone if I could not at least produce one set of good soap. I want to join everyone in one of the classes very badly, but I am not able to as yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 2:39 pm 
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theginger8 wrote:
soapbuddy wrote:
Normally, you can take the soap out after it's been in the freezer, let it come to room temp, then cut it.


Soap buddy, did you mean to give the amount of time it should be in the freezer?

I know I seem very anxious, but I seem to be getting invited to a number of showings, and I really feel as though I would be cheating everyone if I could not at least produce one set of good soap. I want to join everyone in one of the classes very badly, but I am not able to as yet.

Depending on ingredients, add-ons, fragrances and or color, you can leave the soap in the freezer for 4 hrs., up to overnight.
I would get a few more batches under your belt, before you start any showings. First impressions are important. If there are any problems with your soap and you sell it, it could come back and haunt you. There would also be a liability issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Freezing cp soap
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:52 am 
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soapbuddy wrote:
theginger8 wrote:
soapbuddy wrote:
Normally, you can take the soap out after it's been in the freezer, let it come to room temp, then cut it.


Soap buddy, did you mean to give the amount of time it should be in the freezer?

I know I seem very anxious, but I seem to be getting invited to a number of showings, and I really feel as though I would be cheating everyone if I could not at least produce one set of good soap. I want to join everyone in one of the classes very badly, but I am not able to as yet.

Depending on ingredients, add-ons, fragrances and or color, you can leave the soap in the freezer for 4 hrs., up to overnight.
I would get a few more batches under your belt, before you start any showings. First impressions are important. If there are any problems with your soap and you sell it, it could come back and haunt you. There would also be a liability issue.

Thanks again and you are right, I did just jump in and make another batch, this only yields about 6bars, so we will see.


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