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 Post subject: additives in cp
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:57 pm 
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Thinking about trying pumpkin puree in my soap and wonder how one would go about doing this. From most things I have read, I need to discount water in the recipe however how do you calculate this into the recipe? I have worked with GM, oats, honey, clays and such but these don't require any water discount! Any other skin loving additive ideas would be welcome too:)

PS-a lot of recipes I seen had added pumpkin spices and such which I am not entirely sure I like since some of them might be skin irritants! I was hoping to not add FO but I may have to to get the entire pie effect!

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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:30 pm 
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This is super easy! :mrgreen:

Say your recipe requires 650g water and 220g lye (fictitious numbers!). You want to add 320g water (I always add 100g more water than the amount of lye) and you can then add 330g pumpkin puree.

You just need to be sure that you have enough water to dissolve all of the lye. Theoretically you could do so with 220g of water, but I like to be on the safe side and add 100g extra. I do this no matter what the measurements are for my recipe, 100g extra water to the lye amount and then the difference in whatever I'm adding.

I use the above for all food additives EXCEPT avocado! That one I use a superfat discount rather than adjusting the water.

Hope this helps! I've made a few batches of really nice pumpkin poppy seed soap with this method, works very well :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

If you're using tinned pumpkin you may want to add lye amount plus 200g of water, as it is less liquidy than hand pureed pumpkin! Or maybe add some goats milk to the tinned pumpkin to make it more liquidy. :D

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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:58 am 
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I make pumpkin every fall. So far I have always used Arabian spice FO in 1/3 of the batter (this is because it darkens it). To the other 2/3 I will add the pumpkin puree (I do use canned). If I want goats milk in this I will add it to the Arabian spice portion, I'm a little concerned that the sugars from the milk and pumpkin would overheat my soap. I have used almond FO and sweetgrass FO in the pumpkin batter (not together, different soaps) and I like these. Just know to go lightly with the almond as it can even overtake the spice one! The brown and orange swirl works nice with the soap.
Now next week I am doing my beer soap and I have the pumpkin lager FO and I hear that this is a true pumpkin scent. If that is true it may be incorporated in my pumpkin soap next year.

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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:24 am 

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Bubbles, When you add your fo to 1/3 of the batter do you only add 1/3 of the recommended amount for the entire batter or do you add the amount recommended for the entire batter?


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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:14 pm 
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I either do the full water amount as frozen canned pumpkin, or half frozen canned pumpkin and half water. Both work but the first one gives a much darker bar.

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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
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I will calculate what 1/3 of my F/O will be. So say I had used a total of 3# of oils. I would do Arabian spice 1# or 0.7oz. Now I will go a little heavy with this and use the 0.7oz PPO because I love the spice scents. Then for the other batter 2# I will use either 1oz of FO or 1.4 oz of FO depending on what it is. Actually I did almond this year and I think I like the sweet grass better.

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 Post subject: Re: additives in cp
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Thanks everyone, so it seems simple...for most things I just need to take the water number it for what I sub in. So if I was playing it safe a just want a little pumpkin to try it out that its just that little but out of the water:)

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